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Barbour Silver Co/International Silver Co

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Submitted by mata on Sun, 01/20/2008 - 13:26.
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Does anyone have any Barbour Silver? Or any information of how I could locate records of Barbour Silver patterns?

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Silver Plate, Basket

Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 01/21/2008 - 21:55.

I have a Silver Plate, it might be called Wedding Basket, On back of plate, one handle has Barbour S.P. Co, International S.Co, on other handle is # 3687A. I would like to know the value and also what year it was made. Thank you, tmca105247@aol.com

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Barbour Silver or Silverplate Coffee & Tea Set

Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 01/29/2008 - 13:28.

Near as I can determine this is an embossed silver or silverplate? Barbour Silver Co. Coffee & Tea set, have the creamer but no sugar container. It has on bottom RSCEP plus numbers 5303 also 3 Hallmark design that has simular to a crown in center. Also has smaller marks look to be star + star in block forms. Any information of age, silver or silverplate or any related info would be appreciated. Thank you. K

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Barbor Silver and Silver Plate in General

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 01/30/2008 - 08:05.

By International conventions all items made of precious metals such as silver in Europe and
North America carry marking to indicate their level of purity, such as the word "Sterling",
numbers such as " 925" ( 925/1000 parts pure), "800" ( 800/1000 parts pure) or stamped
markings referred to as " Hall Marks" that indicate the date made, the maker, city of origin
and metal content. The lack of any such markings indicates this set is most likely silver plated.

Lovejoy

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Barbour Silver Co Repousse Creamer

Submitted by mata on Sat, 02/02/2008 - 08:58.

I have submitted at photo & requested an appraisal for a Barbour Silverplate Repousse creamer, to no avail, as yet. I have no idea of the value, you said you have a Barbour Tea set with the creamer, what type of pattern does it have? I have found several Barbour pieces with Dutch design, mine is not.

I know from what I have read Barbour Silver Co was founded in Meridan Connetticut in 1892 & was the first company absorbed by International Silver. It was then "factory A" but continued to use the Barbour Silver hallmark until 1931.

I have been ubable to find any descriptions of the patterns Barbour Silver Co used prior to ISC merge.

The piece I have is beautiful. I would like to find more pieces like it, but, I fear it will be a life long quest. & Short of traveling to Cn. I may never get any further info.

 

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Re: Barbour Silver Co/International Silver Co

Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 02/03/2008 - 11:31.

Barbour Silver Co. 1882 became a division of
international Silver in 1898 of Hartford,
Ct. The Coffee/Tea Set that I have also bears
a marking that was used by Webster &
Sons 1865 of Brooklyn, NY. The pattern that
I have is of embossed leaves and berries or g
grapes. Have not been able to find out what
the RSCEP stands for? Any info would be
appreciated. Thanks

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Re: Barbour Silver Co/International Silver Co

Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 06/10/2008 - 19:06.

Barbour silver company electro plated

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RE: Barbour Silver mark

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 02/06/2008 - 22:22.

The RSCEP mark is actually: BSCEP, which stands for Barbour Silver Company Extra/Electroplate. I believe it is silver plate over nickel silver. I have a very large Barbour tray that also contains several other marks as well...3 stars in boxes...numbers 5216/18...3 hallmarks, including 1 that is an arm, holding a sledge hammer, rising out of a basket. The other 2 marks are indescribable. Any help would be appreciated.

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http://www.replacements.com/i

Submitted by MHolmstedt on Thu, 02/07/2008 - 04:18.

http://www.replacements.com/index.htm

http://www.silvercollecting.com/

both of these links should help the first is for replacements and the second has history and hallmark information.

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would like an appraisal, please?

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 02/13/2008 - 14:24.

I have a Barbour vase. This is what is on the bottom. Barbour S.P. co International S. co and the #3739 on the bottom. I don't know anything about this vase or the company.

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More Barbour 3745

Submitted by Casting Academy on Mon, 02/18/2008 - 12:59.

Have pictures, unsure if too large to load. Wt. 2.8lbs with windmill and pipes on disk with #3745.

Could email pictures for discription and value help.

Could it be pre International Silver??

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Re: More Barbour 3745

Submitted by ramblinrec on Wed, 07/02/2008 - 04:16.

Thats the mark of Barbour Silver Company about 1920 when they were under international silver , not pre international silver 

Rob and Michelle

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Pictures

Submitted by Anonymous on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 16:05.

You should have no problem with the pictures as the system should be able to auto-scale them to fit properly. My suggestion is to use the "Photos" upload link.

- Joseph

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Barbour silver cigar box

Submitted by Anonymous on Thu, 03/06/2008 - 00:09.

I got a box stamped 5082 on the bottom. Does that
denote real silver or silver plate? thanks--jojo

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Re: Barbour silver cigar box

Submitted by Lovejoy on Sun, 05/04/2008 - 09:20.

By International conventions all items made of precious metals such as silver in Europe and
North America carry marking to indicate their level of purity, such as the word "Sterling",
numbers such as " 925" ( 925/1000 parts pure), "800" ( 800/1000 parts pure) or stamped
markings referred to as " Hall Marks" that indicate the date made, the maker, city of origin
and metal content. The lack of any such markings indicates this set is most likely silver plated.

Lovejoy

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Re: Barbour silver cigar box

Submitted by ramblinrec on Wed, 07/02/2008 - 04:23.

Silverplate it is ,  european silver was under convention rules but US Silver did not set official standards till 1905.  Prior to that if it used the word silver, sterling or coin it could contain no silver at all, with the National Gold and Silver Stamping Act standards were set,  before that you can find pieces like Nevada Silver and Brazil Silver that have no silver ,  but yours is silverplate 

Rob and Michelle

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international silver bowl-hotel schenley

Submitted by Anonymous on Thu, 03/13/2008 - 18:27.

any help would be appreciated!!this bowl is approx 7and 1/2 inches across and 2 and 1/2 deepthe bottom is stamped hotel schenley under that it says international silver co-under that it says silver soldered under that are numbers 05002-also there is a small square stamp above maybe an 8?-on the inside is a s stamp with leaves around it

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I have a tea pot with the

Submitted by AEK Antiques on Sun, 04/06/2008 - 06:37.

I have a tea pot with the same marking however mine is Royal Orleans Hotel

 

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Re: international silver bowl-hotel schenley

Submitted by ramblinrec on Wed, 07/02/2008 - 04:33.

Its a silverplate piece, the Hotel Schenley had an exclusive contract wiith International Silver , built in the late 1800's this Hotel was a Queen Ship of Hotels,   Many of the most important people of the day entertainment and political lived there ,  it rode the high end wave for years in Pittsburgh until they built the statium for the Pittsburgh Pirates ,  visiting ballteams stayed there and a wave of havoc started the downfall of the hotel , as Pittsburgh built up the hotel could not compete ,  I cant remember when but the university of pittsburgh purchased it some years ago and evently restored it to student housing and offices.

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International Silver

Submitted by AEK Antiques on Sun, 04/06/2008 - 06:35.

Hello .. if items are marked Internation Silver are they silver or silver plate??

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International Silver

Submitted by Lovejoy on Mon, 04/07/2008 - 07:31.

That's just the name of the company. American Sterling silver is generally marked " Sterling" or bears the numerical "925" which stands for 925/1000ths pure silver, ( which is Sterling),  the word "Coin" or the numerical "800" which stands for 800/1000ths pure silver. If none of those markings are present it is most likely silverplated .

 

Lovejoy 

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Re: International Silver

Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 12:37.

I obtained several silver plated or silver items from a great Aunt one has a sticker on it that reads, " International Silver Company", and this sticker is over some engraving underneath. I haven't removed the sticker to read what is under it. I'm afraid it will lessen it's value. This is not a big plater more so a small relish(?) tray. Just wanting to know what or how I should go about finding out more info. on the items she's left me. Not so much for money, but the history behind them. I also have a butter dish, like a claim shell, with a glass linning in it from England. There are letter on it, " F & JL" at least that is what it looks like to me. The knife has, "E&J. Leeks" thats what I think I see anyhow.

Can you help? Any advise would be helpful. Thanks Jenn.

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Re: International Silver

Submitted by ramblinrec on Wed, 07/02/2008 - 04:34.

International Silver made sterling , silver and silverplate , most is silverplate and as far as I know sterling and silver were clearly marked

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I need help with a piece

Submitted by JenJamGeo68 on Mon, 04/07/2008 - 15:41.

I have a food or pie or cake stand, Don't know which it is. It has three feet which have a decorative work on each foot. It stand 1" from botton of feet to top of stand. It is 9.5 inches from across the top of the stand. It says for the mark on the back of the piece CARLTON SILVERPLATE. It has etched on the top a pattern of which I do not know..It has a place in the middle with no etching except for a single small tiny star or flower. I would like to know of the pattern of this piece and what it would be worth. Please help.

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Re: I need help with a piece

Submitted by ramblinrec on Wed, 07/02/2008 - 04:51.

Oneida made a pattern called carlton in the late 1800's but as far as I know it was all silverware no serving pieces , think yours might be from the late 1950's there were pieces marked carlton silverplate and the pattern was Valerie ,   this looked like this tops of a wheat stalk and there also was the brentwood lakewood romona that was like small flowers or beading , hard to say with yours since you dont define your pattern but you can date it to the late fifties early sixties

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I have a Wm A Rogers piece I need help with

Submitted by JenJamGeo68 on Mon, 04/07/2008 - 15:44.

I have received 2 metal plates or serving plates could be decorative for all I know.  Each has a mark of Wm A Rogers on the back inlaid into a small scroll frame around it.  Each has a decorative etching on the front in the middle.  Each has scalloped edges in some pattern of which I do not know.  The color of the pieces seems to be gold or bronze.. I don't know if that is what the metal is underneath or  if it is a silver piece underneath?  The edges further in has cutout shapes all along the edge of the pieces.  I would like to know the pattern of these 2 pieces and the worth of each one if anyone knows where this can be done? Please Help!!

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Re: Barbour Silver Co/International Silver Co

Submitted by Anonymous on Thu, 04/17/2008 - 23:46.

How can I see the picture? Is that suitable for my home furniture?

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Re: Barbour Silver Co/International Silver Co

Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 04/27/2008 - 19:43.

I have a footed tray, BSCEP, Balbour Silver Company, Electro Plate with the Balbour three trade markings, also * + *, numbers 05 600/12 1/2 and scratched on it below trade markings is 24 D ?? (can read two end #'s). The tray looks to be copper with silver over it...the copper(?) shows through the underneath as well through the worn silver plate. The engraving in center on the copper that shows is flowers and leaves. The edge all around the tray is 3D of grapes and leaves. In all my search...I can't find a piece like it.
ANY IDEA'S on what this is??? Any info would be appreciated...
moeatthebeach@aol.com
Thank you
Maureen

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Re: Barbour Silver Co/International Silver Co

Submitted by Anonymous on Sat, 05/03/2008 - 16:05.

My father spent over 43 years at International Silver. At 86, he might know about markings and individual pieces. He was a buffer.

He also has many many pieces from gold plate to flatware.

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Re: Barbour Silver Co/International Silver Co

Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 05/20/2008 - 13:41.

I have a pitcher marked Barbour Silver Co. Quadruple around the inside of a circle with SILVER written across the center. The number 2822 is stamped below the circle and the letters K/RBS scratched into the base as well. I assume this is a water pitcher. We would like to gift the pitcher to a nephew who is getting married. Although I believe it probably belonged to my grandmother (born around 1890), but I need to know the age of the pitcher to know that it was my grandmother's and not my parents'.
Thanks,
Carol

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Re: Barbour Silver Co/International Silver Co

Submitted by ramblinrec on Wed, 07/02/2008 - 06:11.

Quadruple dates back to the late 1800's up to about 1925 , this is probably an older piece more towards the turn of the century but if it is the right mark a half circle it dates to the twenties when they used that mark

Barbour silver company was a relatively small outfit , international silver bought about alot of companies in 1898 ,  Barbour was purchased in 1899 with two or three other companies.   In the early 1880's Barbour came to New Haven and with his brother formed Barbour Bros,  at this time they only marketed for a company called IJ Stearne and Co., by 1889 the brothers were operating in Hartford as the Barbour silver company and than aquired by the interantionl silver company in 1899

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Re: Barbour Silver Co/International Silver Co

Submitted by Anonymous on Sat, 05/24/2008 - 07:50.

I have recently obtain several pieces with a logo before the markings international silver co. this mark appears to be a swan with a 4 point star across it's back. Does antone know anything about this mark or piece

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Re: Barbour Silver Co/International Silver Co

Submitted by ramblinrec on Wed, 07/02/2008 - 06:30.

Hard to tell you about piece since you give no information ,   I know International silver used an eagle and stars but I am not familiar with the Swan , could do better had I not lost a huge library of information in hurricance Charley that I have not even started to replace.  I do know the swan imprint was used by silvermakers to indicate imported from france 

Hard to tell anything without at least some pictures and a really defined description

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Re: Simpson Hall & Miller/International Silver Co

Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 05/30/2008 - 10:58.

I have knife rest with the Simpson, Hall & Miller logo on it, plus the word STERLING on the bar. The ends of the rest are American Brilliant period cut glass. (Tested with blacklight.) I would like to know 2 things:

1) How long did SH&M get to continue to use their logo, once merged with International Silver (in 1899)?

2) What ABP glass company or companies, were affilated with SH&M or International Silver?

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Re: Simpson Hall & Miller/International Silver Co

Submitted by ramblinrec on Wed, 07/02/2008 - 06:29.

Hall Miller and Simpson made detailed pieces , their mark survived till the very early 1900's , the were located in Wallingford Conn and as far as I remember used local glass companies and not sure if they used the majors, their work was much more to quality than quantity.  This should be a sterling piece accompanied by American Brillant Glass probably from logo description it dates to about 1890.  would love to see it wish you had included a picture

The best ABG is very very clear , their is a light bit of cloudiness in some of the ABG pieces, this came from owners of the big glass houses when they found their  rising costs in labor could be offset  by dipping pieces quickly in acid wash , final result was very close to hand polished pieces but you can see the subtle difference 

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Re: Barbour Silver Co/International Silver Co

Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 07/07/2008 - 18:00.

I have a beautiful engraved piece that the marking says barbour silver co.and also says quadruple on it.In the middle of the marking it says silver. Is this real silver?

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Re: Barbour Silver Co/International Silver Co

Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 07/07/2008 - 18:00.

I have a beautiful engraved piece that the marking says barbour silver co.and also says quadruple on it.In the middle of the marking it says silver. Is this real silver?

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